Kansaibenkyou.net - The Old Man http://kansaibenkyou.net/taxonomy/term/226 A 70 year old male. en 電車で / On a Train http://kansaibenkyou.net/node/270 <section class="field field-name-field-conv-exp-desc field-type-text-long field-label-above view-mode-rss"><h2 class="field-label">Description:&nbsp;</h2><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even">Atsushi is on a train and gives up his seat to an old man...</div></div></section><section class="field field-name-field-conv-exp-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-inline clearfix view-mode-rss clearfix"> <h2 class="field-label">Characters:&nbsp;</h2> <ul class="field-items"> <li class="field-item even"> <a href="/taxonomy/term/214" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel">Mori Atsushi</a> </li> <li class="field-item odd"> <a href="/taxonomy/term/226" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel">The Old Man</a> </li> </ul> </section> <section class="field field-name-field-conv-exp-audio field-type-text-long field-label-above view-mode-rss"><h2 class="field-label">Audio (click ▶ to play):&nbsp;</h2><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"> <p id="audioplayer-1" class="kb-audio"><a href="external/ex_conv_train.mp3">[↓]</a></p> </div></div></section><div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden view-mode-rss"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"> <div id="skit-template"> <!-- <button id="skit-show-all-button" title="Show all standard Japanese and English">Show all</button> --><p><button id="skit-toggle-s-button" title="Toggle standard Japanese">Show Standard</button><button id="skit-toggle-e-button" title="Toggle English">Show English</button><button id="skit-toggle-g-button" title="Toggle grammar points">Show Grammar</button><button id="skit-toggle-w-button" title="Toggle word links">Show Words</button></p> <!-- <button id="skit-hide-all-button" title="Hide all standard Japanese and English">Hide all</button> --><table><colgroup><col class="skit-toggler" /><col class="skit-name" /><col class="skit-lines" /></colgroup><tr class="skit-stanza"><td class="skit-name">あつし:</td> <td class="skit-line-container"> <ul><li class="skit-k">あの〜、ここ、よかったらどうぞ。</li> <li class="skit-g">あの〜、ここ、<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/328" title="View grammar information for よかったら">よかったら</a>どうぞ。</li> <li class="skit-w">あの〜、ここ、よかったらどうぞ。</li> <li class="skit-s">あの〜、ここ、よければどうぞ。</li> <li class="skit-e">Excuse me. If you'd like to sit here...?</li> </ul></td> </tr><tr class="skit-stanza"><td class="skit-name">おじいさん:</td> <td class="skit-line-container"> <ul><li class="skit-k">いや〜、わしすぐ降りるよって、かまへんで。</li> <li class="skit-g">いや〜、わしすぐ降りる<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/315" title="View grammar information for よって">よって</a>、かまへん<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/307" title="View grammar information for で">で</a>。</li> <li class="skit-w">いや〜、<a class="conv-link-emph-two" href="/node/193" title="View words information for わし">わし</a>すぐ降りる<a class="conv-link-emph-two" href="/node/286" title="View words information for よって">よって</a>、<a class="conv-link-emph-two" href="/node/124" title="View words information for かまへん">かまへん</a>で。</li> <li class="skit-s">いや〜、私すぐ降りるから、かまわないよ。</li> <li class="skit-e">Don't worry about it. I'm getting off soon.</li> </ul></td> </tr><tr class="skit-stanza"><td class="skit-name">あつし:</td> <td class="skit-line-container"> <ul><li class="skit-k">いや、僕もすぐ降りるんで、座ってください。</li> <li class="skit-g">いや、僕もすぐ降りるんで、座ってください。</li> <li class="skit-w">いや、僕もすぐ降りるんで、座ってください。</li> <li class="skit-s">いや、僕もすぐ降りるので、座ってください。</li> <li class="skit-e">I'm also getting off soon--please go ahead and sit.</li> </ul></td> </tr><tr class="skit-stanza"><td class="skit-name">おじいさん:</td> <td class="skit-line-container"> <ul><li class="skit-k">そうか。すんまへんなあ。ほな、座らせてもらおかな。</li> <li class="skit-g">そう<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/308" title="View grammar information for か">か</a>。すんまへん<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/305" title="View grammar information for なあ">なあ</a>。ほな、<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/336" title="View grammar information for 座らせてもらお">座らせてもらお</a>かな。</li> <li class="skit-w">そうか。<a class="conv-link-emph-two" href="/node/167" title="View words information for すんまへん">すんまへん</a>なあ。<a class="conv-link-emph-two" href="/node/169" title="View words information for ほな">ほな</a>、座らせてもらおかな。</li> <li class="skit-s">そうですか。すみませんねえ。それじゃあ、座らせてもらおうかな。</li> <li class="skit-e">Really? Thank you then, I'll have a seat.</li> </ul></td> </tr><tr><td colspan="3">(Atsushi gives up his seat to the old man.)</td> </tr><tr class="skit-stanza"><td class="skit-name">おじいさん:</td> <td class="skit-line-container"> <ul><li class="skit-k">兄ちゃん、おおきに。若いのにえらい気ぃきくなあ。わし、次の高槻で降りるよって、その後また座ったらええわ。</li> <li class="skit-g">兄ちゃん、おおきに。若いのにえらい気ぃきく<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/305" title="View grammar information for なあ">なあ</a>。わし、次の高槻で降りる<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/315" title="View grammar information for よって">よって</a>、その後また<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/328" title="View grammar information for 座ったら">座ったら</a>ええ<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/304" title="View grammar information for わ">わ</a>。</li> <li class="skit-w">兄ちゃん、<a class="conv-link-emph-two" href="/node/78" title="View words information for おおきに">おおきに</a>。若いのに<a class="conv-link-emph-two" href="/node/37" title="View words information for えらい">えらい</a><a class="conv-link-emph-two" href="/node/282" title="View words information for 気ぃきく">気ぃきく</a>なあ。わし、次の高槻で降りる<a class="conv-link-emph-two" href="/node/286" title="View words information for よって">よって</a>、その後また座ったら<a class="conv-link-emph-two" href="/node/45" title="View words information for ええ">ええ</a>わ。</li> <li class="skit-s">お兄さん、ありがとう。若いのにとても気がきくねえ。私、次の高槻で降りるから、その後また座ればいいよ。</li> <li class="skit-e">Thank you. Young but thoughtful. I'm gonna get off next at Takatsuki, so you can have the seat again after that.</li> </ul></td> </tr><tr class="skit-stanza"><td class="skit-name">あつし:</td> <td class="skit-line-container"> <ul><li class="skit-k">僕も高槻で降りるんですわ。</li> <li class="skit-g">僕も高槻で降りるんです<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/304" title="View grammar information for わ">わ</a>。</li> <li class="skit-w">僕も高槻で降りるんですわ。</li> <li class="skit-s">僕も高槻で降りるんですよ。</li> <li class="skit-e">Actually, I'm gonna get of at Takastuki too.</li> </ul></td> </tr><tr class="skit-stanza"><td class="skit-name">おじいさん:</td> <td class="skit-line-container"> <ul><li class="skit-k">あれ、さよか。兄ちゃんも高槻に住んでるんか?</li> <li class="skit-g">あれ、さよか。兄ちゃんも高槻に<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/331" title="View grammar information for 住んでる">住んでる</a><a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/309" title="View grammar information for ん">ん</a><a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/308" title="View grammar information for か">か</a>?</li> <li class="skit-w">あれ、<a class="conv-link-emph-two" href="/node/278" title="View words information for さよか">さよか</a>。兄ちゃんも高槻に住んでるんか?</li> <li class="skit-s">あら、そう。お兄さんも高槻に住んでいるの?</li> <li class="skit-e">Really? Do you also live in Takastuki?</li> </ul></td> </tr><tr class="skit-stanza"><td class="skit-name">あつし:</td> <td class="skit-line-container"> <ul><li class="skit-k">いや、今日は仕事で行くんですわ。</li> <li class="skit-g">いや、今日は仕事で行くんです<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/304" title="View grammar information for わ">わ</a>。</li> <li class="skit-w">いや、今日は仕事で行くんですわ。</li> <li class="skit-s">いや、今日は仕事で行くんですよ。</li> <li class="skit-e">No, I'm going in to work today.</li> </ul></td> </tr><tr class="skit-stanza"><td class="skit-name">おじいさん:</td> <td class="skit-line-container"> <ul><li class="skit-k">そうか。暑いのに、ご苦労さんやなあ。ほやけど、昔は高槻もいなかやってんけど、今は駅のまわりにマンションやらホテルやら大っきい建物いっぱい建ってにぎやかになったわ。まあ、兄ちゃんら昔の高槻いうても知らんやろなあ。</li> <li class="skit-g">そう<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/308" title="View grammar information for か">か</a>。暑いのに、<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/313" title="View grammar information for ご苦労さん">ご苦労さん</a><a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/330" title="View grammar information for や">や</a>なあ。ほやけど、昔は高槻もいなかやっ<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/309" title="View grammar information for てん">てん</a>けど、今は駅のまわりにマンションやらホテルやら大っきい建物いっぱい建ってにぎやかになった<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/304" title="View grammar information for わ">わ</a>。まあ、兄ちゃんら昔の高槻<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/301" title="View grammar information for いうて">いうて</a>も<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/296" title="View grammar information for 知らん">知らん</a><a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/330" title="View grammar information for やろ">やろ</a>なあ。</li> <li class="skit-w">そうか。暑いのに、<a class="conv-link-emph-two" href="/node/280" title="View words information for ご苦労さん">ご苦労さん</a>やなあ。<a class="conv-link-emph-two" href="/node/166" title="View words information for ほやけど">ほやけど</a>、昔は高槻もいなかやってんけど、今は駅のまわりにマンションやらホテルやら大っきい建物いっぱい建ってにぎやかになったわ。まあ、兄ちゃんら昔の高槻いうても知らんやろなあ。</li> <li class="skit-s">そう。暑いのに、ご苦労さまだねえ。それにしても、昔は高槻もいなかだったけど、今は駅のまわりにマンションやらホテルやら大きい建物がいっぱい建ってにぎやかになったよ。まあ、お兄さんは昔の高槻といっても知らないだろうねえ。</li> <li class="skit-e">Oh. Tough in this kind of heat. You know, Takastuki used to be rural, but now it's a busy town with all sorts of big apartments, hotels, and things around the station. Well, you probably don't know much about the old Takastuki... </li> </ul></td> </tr><tr class="skit-stanza"><td class="skit-name">あつし:</td> <td class="skit-line-container"> <ul><li class="skit-k">そうですねえ。昔は駅のまわりも静かやったんですか?</li> <li class="skit-g">そうですねえ。昔は駅のまわりも静か<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/330" title="View grammar information for やった">やった</a>んですか?</li> <li class="skit-w">そうですねえ。昔は駅のまわりも静かやったんですか?</li> <li class="skit-s">そうですねえ。昔は駅のまわりも静かだったんですか?</li> <li class="skit-e">Yeah, no really. Did it also used to be quiet around the station?</li> </ul></td> </tr><tr class="skit-stanza"><td class="skit-name">おじいさん:</td> <td class="skit-line-container"> <ul><li class="skit-k">まぁ、ちっさい店はなんぼかあったけど、今みたいなおっきい建物はいっこもなかったなあ。高槻は梅田にも京都にも近いよって便利やろ?ほいで、街で働く若い人らがようさん住みだしたんや。</li> <li class="skit-g">まぁ、ちっさい店はなんぼかあったけど、今みたいなおっきい建物は<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/299" title="View grammar information for いっこも">いっこも</a>なかったなあ。高槻は梅田にも京都にも近い<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/315" title="View grammar information for よって">よって</a>便利<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/330" title="View grammar information for やろ">やろ</a>?<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/316" title="View grammar information for ほいで">ほいで</a>、街で働く若い人らがようさん住みだし<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/309" title="View grammar information for たん">たん</a><a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/330" title="View grammar information for や">や</a>。</li> <li class="skit-w">まぁ、ちっさい店は<a class="conv-link-emph-two" href="/node/79" title="View words information for なんぼ">なんぼ</a>かあったけど、今みたいなおっきい建物はいっこもなかったなあ。高槻は梅田にも京都にも近い<a class="conv-link-emph-two" href="/node/286" title="View words information for よって">よって</a>便利やろ?ほいで、街で働く若い人らが<a class="conv-link-emph-two" href="/node/147" title="View words information for ようさん">ようさん</a>住みだしたんや。</li> <li class="skit-s">まぁ、小さい店はいくつかあったけど、今みたいな大きい建物は全然なかったねえ。高槻は梅田にも京都にも近いから便利だろう?それで、街で働く若い人たちがたくさん住みだしたんだ。</li> <li class="skit-e">Well, there were some small stores, but nothing like the tall buildings there are now. Since Takatsuki is close to Umeda and Kyoto, it's pretty convenient, right? Because of that, more and more young people started to live there.</li> </ul></td> </tr><tr class="skit-stanza"><td class="skit-name">あつし:</td> <td class="skit-line-container"> <ul><li class="skit-k">ああ、そういうたら、僕の友達も高槻に引っ越す言うてましたわ。今は梅田に住んでるんやけど、家賃は高いし、うるさいし、いっこもええことない言うて。今、高槻、人気あるみたいですね。</li> <li class="skit-g">ああ、<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/328" title="View grammar information for そういうたら">そういうたら</a>、僕の友達も高槻に引っ越す<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/301" title="View grammar information for 言うて">言うて</a>ました<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/304" title="View grammar information for わ">わ</a>。今は梅田に<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/311" title="View grammar information for 住んでる">住んでる</a>ん<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/330" title="View grammar information for や">や</a>けど、家賃は高いし、うるさいし、<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/299" title="View grammar information for いっこも">いっこも</a>ええことない<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/302" title="View grammar information for 言う">言う</a>て。今、高槻、人気あるみたいですね。</li> <li class="skit-w">ああ、そういうたら、僕の友達も高槻に引っ越す言うてましたわ。今は梅田に住んでるんやけど、家賃は高いし、うるさいし、いっこも<a class="conv-link-emph-two" href="/node/45" title="View words information for ええ">ええ</a>ことない言うて。今、高槻、人気あるみたいですね。</li> <li class="skit-s">ああ、そういえば、僕の友達も高槻に引っ越すと言ってましたよ。今は梅田に住んでいるんだけど、家賃は高いし、うるさいし、全然いいことないと言って。今、高槻、人気あるみたいですね。</li> <li class="skit-e">You know, speaking of which, my friend told me that he is going to move to Takastuki. He's living in Umeda now, he said that the rent is high and he can't get any peace; nothing good to say about the place. Takastuki seems like it's getting popular these days.</li> </ul></td> </tr><tr class="skit-stanza"><td class="skit-name">おじいさん:</td> <td class="skit-line-container"> <ul><li class="skit-k">そやねん。若い人らが増えてきて、わしら喜んどるんや。おっ、駅へ着いたみたいやな。兄ちゃん、仕事がんばりや。</li> <li class="skit-g">そや<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/309" title="View grammar information for ねん">ねん</a>。若い人らが増えてきて、わしら<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/311" title="View grammar information for 喜んどる">喜んどる</a>ん<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/330" title="View grammar information for や">や</a>。おっ、駅<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/303" title="View grammar information for へ">へ</a>着いたみたい<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/330" title="View grammar information for や">や</a><a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/305" title="View grammar information for な">な</a>。兄ちゃん、仕事<a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/139" title="View grammar information for がんばり">がんばり</a><a class="conv-link-emph-one" href="/node/306" title="View grammar information for や">や</a>。</li> <li class="skit-w"><a class="conv-link-emph-two" href="/node/161" title="View words information for そや">そや</a>ねん。若い人らが増えてきて、<a class="conv-link-emph-two" href="/node/193" title="View words information for わし">わし</a>ら喜んどるんや。おっ、駅へ着いたみたいやな。兄ちゃん、仕事がんばりや。</li> <li class="skit-s">そうなんだ。若い人たちが増えてきて、私たち喜んでいるんだ。おっ、駅に着いたみたいだね。お兄さん、仕事がんばってね。</li> <li class="skit-e">Yeah, it is. We're happy that more young people are moving into town. Well, it looks like we're getting into Takastuki. Good luck at work.</li> </ul></td> </tr><tr class="skit-stanza"><td class="skit-name">あつし:</td> <td class="skit-line-container"> <ul><li class="skit-k">ありがとうございます。ほな、気ぃつけて。</li> <li class="skit-g">ありがとうございます。ほな、気ぃつけて。</li> <li class="skit-w">ありがとうございます。<a class="conv-link-emph-two" href="/node/169" title="View words information for ほな">ほな</a>、<a class="conv-link-emph-two" href="/node/153" title="View words information for 気ぃつけて">気ぃつけて</a>。</li> <li class="skit-s">ありがとうございます。それじゃ、気をつけて。</li> <li class="skit-e">Thank you. Take care.</li> </ul></td> </tr></table></div> </div></div></div><section class="field field-name-field-function-type field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above view-mode-rss clearfix"> <h2 class="field-label">Common uses:&nbsp;</h2> <ul class="field-items"> <li class="field-item even"> <a href="/taxonomy/term/131" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel">Assertion</a> </li> <li class="field-item odd"> <a href="/taxonomy/term/119" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel">Attentiveness</a> </li> <li class="field-item even"> <a href="/taxonomy/term/121" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel">Connecting sentences</a> </li> <li class="field-item odd"> <a href="/taxonomy/term/122" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel">Honorific titles</a> </li> <li class="field-item even"> <a href="/taxonomy/term/132" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel">Nominalization</a> </li> <li class="field-item odd"> <a href="/taxonomy/term/137" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel">Non-functional</a> </li> <li class="field-item even"> <a href="/taxonomy/term/120" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel">Providing reasons</a> </li> <li class="field-item odd"> <a href="/taxonomy/term/118" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel">Supplying new information</a> </li> <li class="field-item even"> <a href="/taxonomy/term/111" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel">Negation</a> </li> <li class="field-item odd"> <a href="/taxonomy/term/112" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel">Target marker</a> </li> <li class="field-item even"> <a href="/taxonomy/term/57" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel">Question</a> </li> <li class="field-item odd"> <a href="/taxonomy/term/58" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel">Complete negation</a> </li> <li class="field-item even"> <a href="/taxonomy/term/38" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel">Condition/State</a> </li> <li class="field-item odd"> <a href="/taxonomy/term/39" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel">Conjecture</a> </li> <li class="field-item even"> <a href="/taxonomy/term/23" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel">Conditional</a> </li> <li class="field-item odd"> <a href="/taxonomy/term/29" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel">Imperative</a> </li> </ul> </section> <section class="field field-name-field-grammar-type field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above view-mode-rss clearfix"> <h2 class="field-label">Grammar elements:&nbsp;</h2> <ul class="field-items"> <li class="field-item even"> <a href="/taxonomy/term/78" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel">へ/に</a> </li> <li class="field-item odd"> <a href="/taxonomy/term/65" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel">たら</a> </li> <li class="field-item even"> <a href="/taxonomy/term/67" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel">や</a> </li> <li class="field-item odd"> <a href="/taxonomy/term/87" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel">わ</a> </li> <li class="field-item even"> <a href="/taxonomy/term/75" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel">か/け</a> </li> <li class="field-item odd"> <a href="/taxonomy/term/86" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel">で/ど</a> </li> <li class="field-item even"> <a href="/taxonomy/term/79" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel">かいな</a> </li> <li class="field-item odd"> <a href="/taxonomy/term/80" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel">ねん/てん/ん/のん/たん</a> </li> <li class="field-item even"> <a href="/taxonomy/term/84" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel">や(sentence ending particle)</a> </li> <li class="field-item odd"> <a href="/taxonomy/term/69" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel">やろ(う)</a> </li> <li class="field-item even"> <a href="/taxonomy/term/106" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel">Vへん/Vん</a> </li> <li class="field-item odd"> <a href="/taxonomy/term/63" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel">いっこも/なんも</a> </li> <li class="field-item even"> <a href="/taxonomy/term/46" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel">Te-form (verbs)</a> </li> <li class="field-item odd"> <a href="/taxonomy/term/73" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel">Vてる/Vとる</a> </li> <li class="field-item even"> <a href="/taxonomy/term/47" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel">Ta-form (verbs)</a> </li> <li class="field-item odd"> <a href="/taxonomy/term/61" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel">V</a> </li> <li class="field-item even"> <a href="/taxonomy/term/81" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel">ほんで/ほいで</a> </li> <li class="field-item odd"> <a href="/taxonomy/term/82" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel">よって/さかい</a> </li> <li class="field-item even"> <a href="/taxonomy/term/92" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel">ちゃん/さん</a> </li> </ul> </section> Fri, 08 Apr 2011 00:50:23 +0000 Yukawa Keiko 270 at http://kansaibenkyou.net http://kansaibenkyou.net/node/270#comments